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Alates esimesest veebruarist 2016 sulgeb Postimees anon\u00fc\u00fcmse kommentaariumi ja lubab vaid registreerunud kasutajatel kommentaare lisada. Sellest avaldati ka Postimehe veebiv\u00e4ljaandes artikkel, mis on praegusel hetkel saanud \u00fcle tuhande kommentaari\u00a0(link<\/a>).<\/p>\n

Kas see on \u00f5ige samm? Kas see on s\u00f5navabaduse piiramine? Kas Postimees kaevab endale haua?<\/p>\n

Tegu ei ole s\u00f5navabaduse piiramisega. Miks?<\/p>\n

Iga\u00fchel on \u00f5igus vabalt levitada ideid, arvamusi, veendumusi ja muud informatsiooni s\u00f5nas, tr\u00fckis, pildis v\u00f5i muul viisil. Seda \u00f5igust v\u00f5ib seadus piirata avaliku korra, k\u00f5lbluse, teiste inimeste \u00f5iguste ja vabaduste, tervise, au ning hea nime kaitseks<\/span>. (EV P\u00f5hiseadus<\/a>)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Loomulikult r\u00e4\u00e4gitakse siinkohal, et seda \u00f5igust v\u00f5ib piirata SEADUS, mis t\u00e4hendab, et TEGELIKULT pole Postimehe kommentaariumi sulgemisel\u00a0s\u00f5navabadusega mittemingisugust \u00a0pistmist. Miks?<\/p>\n

Postimees.ee kommentaarium on platvorm, mille on loonud kontsern Eesti Meedia. See on nende virtuaalne ruum, mida nad ise modereerivad. Nemad panevad paika selle platvormi reeglid ning muudavad neid, kui soovivad.<\/p>\n

Ma loon analoogia, et ka loll aru saaks. Priit k\u00e4ib iga p\u00e4ev kohalikus k\u00fclapoes oma naabrimeest laimamas. Nii juba kolm aastat. K\u00fclapood aga pandi kahjumi t\u00f5ttu kinni. N\u00fc\u00fcd \u00fctleb Priit, et k\u00fclapoe omanik tsenseerib teda.<\/p>\n

Anon\u00fc\u00fcmne\u00a0kommentaar:
\nPaneks siis juba \u00fcldse postimehe kinni, mida siin enam \u00fcldse jaurata, kui s\u00f5navabadust ka enam pole…<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Loll inimene ei tea, millest ta r\u00e4\u00e4gib. Ma v\u00f5in oma majapidamises v\u00e4ga selgelt k\u00fclalisele \u00f6elda, et siin majas me poliitikast ei r\u00e4\u00e4gi. K\u00fclaline ei saa minna politseisse ja \u00f6elda, et ma olen tsensor. Vahet ei ole p\u00e4ris ruumil ja virtuaalsel ruumil.<\/p>\n

Ja \u00fcle\u00fcldse on kogu see furoor t\u00e4iesti ajuvaba. Tegelikkuses saab kommenteerimist ju j\u00e4tkata registreeritud kasutajana. Tekib kummaline paradoks, kus inimesed hakkavad ennast ISE tsenseerima, kuna nende kasutajal on mingisugune imid\u017e, mida peaks hoidma. Kellele n\u00fc\u00fcd kaevata?<\/p>\n

Kogu see m\u00fcrgel on alusetu. Postimees v\u00f5ib teha, mida iganes ta soovib. Kui nad ei soovi n\u00e4ha oma kommentaariumis vihak\u00f5net, laimu, roppusi ja alusetuid s\u00fc\u00fcdistusi, siis on neil igasugune \u00f5igus see platvorm sulgeda.<\/p>\n

M\u00f5ned t\u00e4helepanekud artikli kommentaaridest:<\/p>\n

Anon\u00fc\u00fcmne kommentaar:
\nAjakirjanik v\u00f5ib avaldada mida iganes ja varjunimesid kasutades.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Ei. Ajakirjanik ei saa avalikustada meediav\u00e4ljaandes \u00fchtegi “mida iganes” artiklit\u00a0(v\u00f5ib-olla Priit Pullerits ainult). Varjunimed on tihtipeale enda kaitseks, kui artikkel v\u00f5ib inimese elu ohustada. \u00dcldiselt pole see v\u00e4ga levinud tegevus. Kui silmas on peetud aga m\u00f5nda blogipidajat, siis see vabadus on k\u00f5igil inimestel maailmas. Tee blogi ja kirjuta mida iganes. Kasv\u00f5i varjunimega. Selleks ei pea ajakirjanik olema.<\/p>\n

Anon\u00fc\u00fcmne kommentaar:
\nVaikselt t\u00f6\u00f6deldakse pagulaste tulekuks ette.Algul pisikesed asjad nagu kommide sulgemised aga 20 aasta p\u00e4rast on juba araabia keel koolides kohustuslik<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Sa oled idioot. Sina oledki see v\u00e4hk, mis kommentaariume tapab. Puudub argumentatsioon. Puudub loogika. K\u00f5ik puudub. Kohtlane.<\/p>\n

Anon\u00fc\u00fcmne Kommentaar:
\nVastukaaluks peaks Postimees lubama seda,et enam ei kustutata postitusi,mis on valele poolele kallutatud !<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Ei pea. Nende platvorm. Soovitan tutvuda Varro Vooglaiu abiga s\u00fcndinud uudisteportaaliga objektiiv.ee, mis on tugevalt parempoolse kallutatusega. Postimees \u00fcritab hoida ennast keskel, aga ajakirjanikud on indiviidid oma maailmavaadetega. Lisaks sellele – pole olemas “v\u00e4\u00e4ra” kallutatust.<\/p>\n

Anon\u00fc\u00fcmne kommentaar:
\nju siis tuleb lendlehti posti peale kleepida nagu vene ajal EESTI VABAKSv\u00f6i MAHA REFORMERID,,<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Absoluutselt. Niiviisi saaks sellest loosungist ka midagi s\u00fcndida. Ja tegelikult on Eesti vaba. See, et sa \u00fcldse saad “maha reformerid” kirjutada, viitab sellele. \u00c4ra ole idioot.<\/p>\n

Soovitan kommentaaridega tutvuda ja S\u00dcGAVALT j\u00e4rele m\u00f5elda, kas t\u00f5esti saab Postimehe otsus olla halb. Minu arust ei saa.<\/p>\n

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